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Torture isn’t just morally sick — it’s also ineffective and counterproductive | Crooks and Liars

December 2, 2008

I must first state that this video is grossly disturbing.   Although it starts off with a nice beat and beautiful imaginary, the bucks stops there.  The video quickly goes into what it is really about, torture.  It is not pretty.  It is also only a small example of what we as a country are doing at GITMO.

The means of torturing people does not get us results.  Obviously, Bin Laden is still free.  If I was being torture and didn’t know crap I would tell them any lie I could think of that would make them stop.  Yet, we should believe this method is working?  why?  Where are the results?  In fact one of our interrogators have documented his experience and found torture was counter productive.

Over the course of this renaissance in interrogation tactics, our attitudes changed. We no longer saw our prisoners as the stereotypical al-Qaeda evildoers we had been repeatedly briefed to expect; we saw them as Sunni Iraqis, often family men protecting themselves from Shiite militias and trying to ensure that their fellow Sunnis would still have some access to wealth and power in the new Iraq. Most surprisingly, they turned out to despise al-Qaeda in Iraq as much as they despised us, but Zarqawi and his thugs were willing to provide them with arms and money. I pointed this out to Gen. George Casey, the former top U.S. commander in Iraq, when he visited my prison in the summer of 2006. He did not respond.

Sorry folks, we need a firm resolution about GITMO.   It’s got to be shut down and more legal and constitutional means found to prosecute our enemies.

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Then you have jerks/jokes like Bill-O (O’Reilly) pretending that what we are doing in GITMO is not happening while he continue to serve up the kool-aid to all those that desire to live outside of reality.

Yet the Red Cross have documented the torture that has been committed at GITMO.  I guess they were lying if you’re a kool-aid drinker.

The International Committee of the Red Cross found “cruel, inhumane and degrading” treatment of detainees at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, during inspections there last summer, and issued a formal report in July that said some interrogation tactics come close to torture, a source who has seen portions of the report said yesterday.

Enough said.

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